But then I am a fan of the Yuletide model, which prioritizes a variety and number of works over equality of gifts.
I never did feel comfortable in the Yuletide atmosphere; my "home" exchange is Purimgifts, where there's an actual maximum word limit and an atmosphere that tries to make it not an extravaganza. On the other hand, that doesn't mean people aren't trying to do their best or "win" at some standard, just that this drive gets channeled in different ways. (And, well, the upper word limit is... loosely enforced.)
There seems to be a huge ovelap between Purimgifts and Jukebox participants: I recognized about a third of this round's participants from last Purimgifts.
The thing that makes a lot of things okay at Purimgifts is that there's no expectation of certain things, and frequent reminders of that. For example, (at least) three pieces of some sort of art are mandatory; you can do more or you can make them fancy, but clip-art is absolutely okay and bad photoshopping is practically a celebrated tradition. So "bad" art is not a bad gift, but rather part of the Purim-play.
Which makes me think integrating podfic into Jukebox may be a lot about how it's framed - and that might be part of why I reached for the PT model, because something that gets emphasized at PT over and over again is that co-created text and podfic are a single work in more than one media, and not two works (with one adapted off the other into a different medium). This may sound like hair-splitting but, having participated in PT and PT-L a bunch of times, I can say that when the PT process works right it really is like that - there's a synergy in the process.
*checks* The creation period this year was 7 weeks. The creation period on PT-L is 3 weeks, and the minimum is 100 words (this is exceeded almost always). The creation period on PT is 9 weeks this year, and the minimum is 1000 words/10min of audio (and again often exceeded, though not quite as drastically). So, having the Jukebox standard for a PT-style collab be somewhere in between these measures should be right on the mark. (And it makes sense for it to be lower, since two people need time enough, not just the one. And podfic editing can get crazy work-intense.)
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Date: 2015-06-13 09:29 am (UTC)I never did feel comfortable in the Yuletide atmosphere; my "home" exchange is Purimgifts, where there's an actual maximum word limit and an atmosphere that tries to make it not an extravaganza. On the other hand, that doesn't mean people aren't trying to do their best or "win" at some standard, just that this drive gets channeled in different ways. (And, well, the upper word limit is... loosely enforced.)
There seems to be a huge ovelap between Purimgifts and Jukebox participants: I recognized about a third of this round's participants from last Purimgifts.
The thing that makes a lot of things okay at Purimgifts is that there's no expectation of certain things, and frequent reminders of that. For example, (at least) three pieces of some sort of art are mandatory; you can do more or you can make them fancy, but clip-art is absolutely okay and bad photoshopping is practically a celebrated tradition. So "bad" art is not a bad gift, but rather part of the Purim-play.
Which makes me think integrating podfic into Jukebox may be a lot about how it's framed - and that might be part of why I reached for the PT model, because something that gets emphasized at PT over and over again is that co-created text and podfic are a single work in more than one media, and not two works (with one adapted off the other into a different medium). This may sound like hair-splitting but, having participated in PT and PT-L a bunch of times, I can say that when the PT process works right it really is like that - there's a synergy in the process.
*checks* The creation period this year was 7 weeks. The creation period on PT-L is 3 weeks, and the minimum is 100 words (this is exceeded almost always). The creation period on PT is 9 weeks this year, and the minimum is 1000 words/10min of audio (and again often exceeded, though not quite as drastically). So, having the Jukebox standard for a PT-style collab be somewhere in between these measures should be right on the mark. (And it makes sense for it to be lower, since two people need time enough, not just the one. And podfic editing can get crazy work-intense.)